READERS' LETTERS
AUGUST 2008
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From: Vince Steptoe, 31st August 2008
Hi Jeff,
I have just watched the Chelsea v Spurs game and would like your opinion on
the Chelsea goal. It came as a result of a corner, however I don't think
That the corner should have been awarded. It came from a shot by Essien that
hit the bar and rebounded towards Anelka who had been in an offside position
when Essien hit the shot. Spurs defender intercepted the ball from Anelka
and put he ball out over the goal line. Should Anelka not have been given
offside once he attempted to play the ball.
Jeff's reply
A few points here Vince, once the corner has been given, rightly or wrongly,
the defending side has a chance to defend it and in not doing they cannot
rely on an excuse of "It should not have been a corner".
I watched the game and think by then was half asleep, the Villa v Liverpool
game certainly sent me to the land of nod. Nowadays, the "lino" is not
supposed to flag a player offside if he is not directly involved with the
initial phase of play, so by being in an offside position he is not actually
committing an offence. If the ball hits the post, bar, keeper and he then
immediately plays the ball, he has then benefited from being in that
position and should then be given offside. Now though there is this second
phase terminology that suggests that if the game proceeds and the player
then scores he is not deemed offside. Confused?? I am!!!
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: Barry Appleton, 29th August 2008
Jeff
Didn't realise that you had switched stations, what time are you on Sat?
Up the Boro
Snowy
Jeff's reply
Decision taken out of my hands Snowy. My former station pulled the plug on
football coverage in a cost cutting exercise after their new owners slashed
the budget.
I do a 30 minute lunchtime preview programme from 1-1.30 pm, then the
football phone-in is on from 6-7pm. It's on 103.2 fm, or available on the
www.alpha1032.com website or through the link son my own site
www.jeffwinter.co.uk.
Hope that you can tune in, give me a call one week. Match tickets and meals
to be won each week.
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: Dan, 29th August 2008
I'm liking the article Jeff, used to read it in Zoo.
Do you take into account free-kicks around the area when you're looking
over the games? Or do you think they're too hard to score to consider?
And on a final note, how much of the games do you see?
Jeff's reply
Glad you enjoy the articles Dan, it's a bit of fun not an exact science. I
watch some games live, or rely on MOTD/ Sky highlights for others. Even on
the highlights programmes they usually show the contentious decisions. If
they don't for any reason, then obviously I am missing out on some points
that might also affect the score.
With regard to free kicks, if one is given that should not have been and
they score directly from it I have ruled out a goal. However if that free
kick leads to a corner from which a goal is scored then whilst some would
argue that should be ruled out, the defence have every opportunity to clear
it.
Like I said I make my own rules up and it certainly riles the fans when
I chalk off a goal that costs there team, conversely, fans agree when it
goes in their favour. Just like the real thing actually, except I don't have
to run around, I can make my judgements sat in front of the TV with a beer
in my hand. Ha ha.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Paul McCullough, 29th August 2008
Video Technology is used in rugby and does not interrupt the flow of the
game.
Jeff's reply
That's because it's a totally different game. The ball is usually dead and
then a decision can be made. That is not usually the case in football, as
the game is still active. If you stop the game how do you restart it, if you
allow the game to continue whilst someone looks at a video, you could have
another contentious decision before the first one is resolved.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Paul McCullough, 28th August 2008
EXCELLENT ARTICLE JEFF (League Of Injustice). AS A VILLA SUPPORTER I AGREE 100%. THIS IS A
DEFINITE CASE FOR VIDEO REPLAYS TO BE INTRODUCED!!!! SO THAT THESE INCIDENTS
ARE NOT MISSED. WE SHOULD HAVE HAD A POINT.
Jeff's reply
Hi Paul,
Did you think my opinions were just as good when I chalked out Villa's
penalty against Boro last season when Luke Young did not handle the ball??
I am sorry though I cannot agree with you on video technology though, it
would kill the flow of the game and take too long and on some occasions be
inconclusive anyway.
I hope Villa have a great season, I have backed them at 5/1 without the
"Big" four.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Davy, 28th August 2008
Hi Jeff,
What a strange situation - Mido talking to Wigan. Any
idea whats going on?
Jeff's reply
Yes Davy, yet another story from the press given after interviewing a player
at home for an international game. I think that this is typical Mido, his
way of getting it known that he is not going to be happy sat on the bench.
His best way to stay in the team is to keep on doing what he is doing now.
I have heard a very strong rumour that Arca is going back to Sunderland for
£5 million, now that would be another good piece of business for the club,
if we then replace him before the transfer window closes.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Nick, 27th August 2008
Jeff,
Can you explain the time added on in both halves of the Cov v Newcastle
United clash the other night.
It'd be handy to get your thoughts as Keegan had to keep schtum afterwards
for fear of reproachments!
Cheers,
Nick
Jeff's reply
It's quite a topical subject at the moment Nick. Last weekend Boro,
Hartlepool and Darlington all lost games due to last minute goals, likewise
Newcastle had to face extra time. I will be covering the subject in greater
detail in my article for the Evening gazette that will appear on this site
on Friday.
Obviously having not been at the game or indeed seen it live on TV, I was at
Hartlepool v West Brom, I cannot comment on how long I think should have
been added. What a lot of people fail to grasp, thanks to commentators and
"experts" wrongly advising listeners, is that the time shown is a minimum.
So if a Ref is going to allow 3mins 45 secs, 3 mins goes on the board not
four. Then if he adds another 45 secs on due to timewasting, subs, injuries,
cards in that 3mins 45secs then obviously you end up playing 4 1/2 minutes.
That might be what happened in the Toon game I don't know. My remedy for
this will be in Friday's article.
KK did look like he was going to burst, think positively though, you won and
Michael Owen got another 30 minutes fitness and a goal.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Mario Aquilina, 26th August 2008
Dear Jeff,
Skrtel's block on O'Neill might have been a 'soft'penalty but what about the
failure to award Liverpool a penalty when Gerrard's shot was deflected by a
Boro defender with his hand. If you think it should not have been awarded,
why were Chelsea awarded an identical penalty in their game against
Portsmouth? Where is the consistency in the refereeing and in the points you
are bringing up here?
Jeff's reply
Mario, no two incidents are identical, though fans and commentators try to
make references and draw comparisons. If you read last week's League of
Injustice you will see that I thought that it was not a penalty in the
Chelse v Portsmouth game, likewise in Liverpool v Boro, the ball was
deflected onto the Boro player who made no attempt to handle the ball.
Therefore no penalty.
These are only my opinions, that in itself does not make them right or
wrong. You will never ever get total consistency on a football pitch because
different people see things in different ways and from different angles.
Players are totally inconsistent, even more so than Referees, it's something
that will never change.
By the way Boro still get a point in my book.
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: Mark, 24th August 2008
Jeff,
How's your new venture at Alpha Radio? You need to get back on the radio in
this area - you're shows are missed.
Mark
Jeff's reply
Cheers for that Galesy, it is good to know that many people are missing the
shows, but also very frustrating. I had worked hard to build up a huge
listener-ship and that audience was taken away by my previous radio stations
decision to put cost before quality. Many have followed me across and if
they can't hear me on the radio and listening on the net via my web site.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Jim, 23rd August 2008
Jeff, I can't believe that Boro are a 9/1 shot to beat Liverpool. We
are the rank outsiders of any team to win today.
If that's not worth a punt, I don't know what is. A Liverpool who
failed to shine against Sunderland week versus a young, pacy and
exciting Middlesbrough.
The Boro will spring a few surprises this season, and a historic win
over the Scousers will be the second of our short season.
Get yourself down to the bookies and make some easy money. This young
attacking Boro side will pay your bar bill tonight!
Come on Boro!!!
Jim, a Boro fan.
Jeff's reply
Hi Jim,
You were so nearly right mate. I went for the 1-1 draw and feel robbed.
Let's hope that you are right. We have to stop conceding these late
goals though!!
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: Jim, 24th August 2008
Jeff, go boil your head man. Even retiring from the Premier
League hasn't got you off Fergie's red end and I don't mean
his nose. You are a joke.
Jeff's reply
Oh dear, I have had the audacity to have an opinion that does
not match a member of the black and white eyed army.
I think in fairness, Fergie would rather stick his boot up
my arse than anything else. Like you, he tends to only see
things one way.
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From: Serenity Now, 23rd August 2008
I'd like to point out a slight inconsistency in your comments
on the decisions this weekend. You say that a handball by
Distin in the Chelsea v Portsmouth game wasn't a penalty yet
say a similar handball by Milner in the Man Utd v Newcastle
game was.
Also in the Man Utd v Newcastle match you fail to mention
that Gutierrez was clearly fouled by the last defender (Vidic)
on his way into the penalty area. In my opinion, this was
a professional foul, a free kick on the edge of the area and
a red card.
Finally, I'd question the wisdom of assuming that any penalty
would be scored, since many of them are missed, especially
by Englishmen! How far do you go with this, i.e. how would
you change the result for a wrong red card decision or for
not giving free kicks in dangerous positions?
Jeff's reply
Thanks Tony, don't you expect me to be inconsistent? Come
on mate, I was a referee.
As I have explained to other Newcastle fans, I agree entirely
with the fact that Vidic did take out the excellent Argentinian
debutee. However, it was outside the area and in my opinion,
because of the other defenders present, I did not think it
was a red card offence.
The problem with handballs and a lot of other aspects of the
game is that no two incidents are the same. I stand by my
original opinion that two incidents you mention were entirely
different. I doubt you will agree, but we are all entitled
to an opinion.
Your final point is 100% correct, the League of Injustice
is not an exact science, it is a bit of fun and a way of me
giving opinions on the correctness of decisions.
I do, however, agree entirely that many things influence the
outcome of a game. If players went through ninety minutes
without getting anything wrong and not making mistakes then
the outcome of the games would be totally different and any
wrong refereeing decisions would be absolutely insignificant.
Anyhow stop moaning, you should still be celebrating a great
performance at Old Trafford.
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: Jonathan Clarke, 23rd August 2008
With reference to your verdict that it should have been 2-1
to Manchester Utd, who is to say they would have scored the
penalty and who is to say Newcastle wouldn't have scored from
the blatant free-kick they weren't given when Gutierrez was
bundled over by Vidic just outside the area?
What a ridiculous idea for a piece of journalism. Refs get
things slightly wrong all the time, as you have had first
hand experience of, as you made a living out of making mistakes
and are now trying to make one deriding them.
Jeff's reply
Every comment you make in your first paragraph is correct.
The idea stemmed from an article that I initially did for
Zoo magazine. It proved popular with the masses and
gives an opportunity for a reasoned view on match incidents.
It proves nothing and is meant as a bit of fun. It certainly
riles the fans who only see one team on a pitch.
More seriously it gives a referee (me) the chance to put a
point of view that is often ignored by the fans and the media.
I don't expect everyone to agree, it is only an opinion.
If I (and all other Refs) had made as many mistakes on a pitch
as players do, we would not have lasted two minutes let alone
ninety!!
Enjoy your football and don't be quite so serious!!
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: rozakthegoon, 23rd August 2008
"Whilst Newcastle deserved their point, United should have
won."
Newcastle are also called United.
Also, Vidic blatantly knocked Jonas off the ball in the box.
Outside the box, it would clearly have been a free kick so
in the box it would have been... yep.
Ignorant. That is not a random word, I mean it in your general
direction.
Jeff's reply
Thanks for your lesson on the use of the English language.
I have just edited your email to make it understandable by
the way!!
Yes, Vidic did foul the excellent Argentinian but it WAS outside
the box!!
BIASED is not a random word, it is meant in your direction!!
rozakthegoon responds:
Hahaha, nice reply to be honest.
Thanks for the edit. Wise eyes like a hawk AND an English
teacher.
Biased eh? Imagine that!!! Now you could NEVER be accused
of that.
Please note, sarcasm IS intended in the words in capital letters.
Apart from the last one.
Ta.
x
Jeff's reply
That's what it's all about, the craic. Football is brilliant,
we all have opinions and we all think we are right!!
Enjoy the season and don't be too disappointed if Boro finish
ahead of you!!
Best Wishes
Jeff
rozakthegoon responds:
Fair play for replying though, and on another look, he was
outside the box.
BUT Milner didn't move his hand to block on purpose, so what
was he supposed to do?
Jeff's reply
Let's agree to differ on that one!!
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: George Farr, 22nd August 2008
Dear Jeff
I am a sixteen year old level seven referee and I've got to
say that I really enjoyed reading your book with things that
I could relate to and take note of. Not only was it your book
but it was a signed copy my grandad got last Christmas.
At least there is a referee who thinks Everton are constantly
being hard done by week in week out with mistake after mistake
going against us!
George
Jeff's reply
Thanks George.
I am glad that you enjoyed the book and I also hope that you
have a long and successful career as a referee.
I think Everton have not had the best of luck with decisions
but don't start believing the conspiracy theories that some
rely on.
Over the course of a season, most fans can quote examples
of decisions that have cost them. There are a lot of other
reasons within ninety minutes why results don't go your way
and those are not down to the ref.
Enjoy your football.
Best Wishes
Jeff
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Big Bob, 22nd August 2008
No Boro players booked against Spurs? Try harder Jeff, there
was a needless booking for Digard. After that and Wheater's
goal, respect to refs my a**e.
Jeff's reply
Hi Bob
I wrote my article on Monday morning having left the ground
a couple of minutes before the end to get back to the studios.
I was amazed to read in the Gazette that Digard had been booked
in the last minute. I missed that along with Spurs goal. So
that's my excuse for cocking up.
When you say that the booking was needless, I cannot comment
having not seen it. However, I take it you suggest that it
was needless for the ref to book him. Another view might be
that it was needless for him to make that challenge.
You will have noted from my article that I conceded that it
was a mistake by the ref and Wheater's goal should have stood.
However, if you are going to base having respect for a referee
only if he never makes a mistake, then you will never respect
one.
The behaviour of players in general last weekend was good
but let's wait and see what happens when a few crunch games
come along.
I don't think fans will ever show respect because they are
only interested in their team and will not accept decisions
that go against their team. I think perhaps that is what being
a fan is all about.
Let's hope the ref at Liverpool does not make the same errors
as the one did in the corresponding game last season.
Enjoy your football
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: Jamie Storey, 21st August 2008
Man Utd v Newcastle: what about in the first ten mins, eh?
When Jonas Gutierrez went through and Vidic shoved him off
the ball on the edge of the box. Nothing said about that,
eh. Typical, referees are terrified to give big decisions
to opposition at Old Trafford.
Jeff's reply
The point of the League of Injustice is to look at penalties,
offsides, etc that directly affect goals scored or given.
It is not an exact science of looking at every refereeing
decision in the game.
As it happens, I agree with you. It was a foul and should
have also been a yellow card. In the game though, I think
three United players were booked and no Newcastle players.
Also, if the ref was biased for United, would he not have
given the penalty for the handball by Milner?
There are many who would say that the fans at Newcastle are
more than capable of trying to sway referees at St.James's.
It works both ways mate.
Enjoy your season, if the performance at Old Trafford is anything
to go by then the Toon could be in for a good season.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Scott, 20th August 2008
Thank you for proving that you weren't just a rubbish referee
because it's difficult in the middle of the action without
the benefit of television replays.
Your analysis is terrible and your punditry in general is
more difficult to absorb than the smog infested airs you suffer
on a daily basis.
Jeff's reply
I am gutted to hear that I was a rubbish ref in your valued
and qualified opinion. Thank God I managed to fool all of
those people who actually know the game and what it takes
to be a Premier League referee.
Likewise fortunately the TV and radio companies who continually
employ me are not as astute as yourself.
Obviously you have not been to Teesside lately and taken a
good breath of the fresh air that comes both from the coast
and also in the local countryside. Could I suggest you do
so, because the lack of quality air has affected your brain.
Best Wishes
Jeff Winter
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The Doctor, 19th August 2008
Regarding your claim that Manchester United should have been
given a penalty - you may be right but I notice your Boro
roots haven't stopped you giving an honest opinion, eh!
Perhaps you didn't spot Vidic take out Jonas Guiterez, a cynical
foul that should surely have resulted in a red card for the
centre half?
Jeff's reply
Hi Doctor
Yes I did spot it. It was a foul and should have been punished
by a free kick and a yellow card. It was outside the box and
was not a denial of a goal scoring opportunity.
My opinions are nowt to do with where I come from or who I
support, just like that made absolutely no difference when
I refereed.
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: Davy, 18th August 2008
JEFF, CENTURY JUST SAID THAT BERNIE SLAVEN WAS BANNED FROM
THE RIVERSIDE PRESS FACILITIES... BLOODY HELL!!
HE CAN ONLY DO MATCH UPDATES AT AWAY GAMES. WHAT A FARCE MATE,
CAN NO PRESS PEOPLE HAVE A POP AT BORO?
THANKS FOR TELLING THE FANS HOW IT IS. UP THE BORO.
DAVY
Jeff's reply
I did some asking around when I got to the ground Davy.
Century have decided to have a Legends show from 1pm until
2.45 pm every Saturday, with their presenters being at the
Newcastle, Sunderland and Boro games if they are playing.
I could not get to the bottom of it, as to whether Bernie
could not present from the Riverside permanently or just on
that occasion because they had not applied in time. I certainly
hope it's the latter.
All Century is going to do during Boro games is "Around the
Grounds" thirty second updates. However, if Bernie is not
at the game, it does not look as if that will happen. It would
then be a BBC closed shop.
Let's wait and see but if the press are only going to be allowed
to work if they don't upset the clubs, then that's a poor
state of affairs.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Peter Owen, 17th August 2008
Jeff, I questioned the keeper issue at the Boro on last week's
show from a passionate point of view only.
Therefore, please allow me to eat some humble pie and congratulate
Brad Jones.
The overall team performance had Gareth Southgate's every
hallmark and I hope others take Tuncay's attitude when being
substituted because that was a winner's warcry.
Peter
Jeff's reply
Let's hope he keeps performing. He made a very important save
to stop Spurs taking the lead but his punching at times does
not inspire confidence.
It was a great performance and entertaining as well. It augurs
well for the rest of the season. Let's hope that they can
perform as well at Liverpool next Saturday.
Tuncay certainly was not happy at being taken off but as you
say, he shows tremendous spirit and was our Man of the Match
in my opinion.
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: Andrew Steen, 16th August 2008
Hi Jeff
Firstly, I really enjoy reading this website. Also, thank
you for personally signing the book that I ordered from the
site.
I have just returned from two weeks in Malta where I sat in
the sun reading your book. As is tradition for me (and to
reduce my luggage weight), I left my book in my room so the
Maltese people can have a good read.
As an Everton Fan, I read with interest your comments regarding
the match where you sent off Dave Watson (after fifteen minutes
when we were 2-0 up against Leeds! I hated you that day!),
and also when you sent a player off before Duncan Ferguson
lamped him.
I would like to know what it was like to referee a game that
Duncan Ferguson was playing in! Were referees instructed to
keep an eye on him?
Regards
Andrew
Jeff's reply
Hi Andrew
I'm glad you enjoyed the book. I'm not happy about you leaving
it behind though, that could have cost me a sale!!
Big Dunc was a handful, but probably more to defenders than
referees. Personally I did not have any problems with him.
What you saw was what you got. It was much easier to read
him than the sly player who did things off the ball.
I don't think that refs singled him (or any other player)
out but they were mindful of the fact that he was playing.
Prevention is better than cure and one word with potential
problem players often worked.
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: Aspo, 15th August 2008
Do you remember "The Dead Eric" from the late 80s at Acklam
Sports Centre on a Saturday morning in the five-a-side league?
You sent me off and yes I fucking deserved it!!
Jeff's reply
Well there's a first Aspo - a player I sent off actually agreeing
with the decision!!
That League was good craic. It used to warm me up for the
Northern League on a Saturday afternoon.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Stephen Towers, 14th August 2008
Hi Jeff
If you can remember, I am the lad from the Boro who you got
a signed shirt for as part of our fundraising in New Zealand.
Thanks again.
I am emailing you now for an answer regarding a football rule.
What is the law regarding a player shouting "leave it" or
"mine" without putting a name on it?
When I was playing, we were always told that this was an offence
because you could gain an advantage and it could be classed
as unsporting behaviour.
I was talking to a local "referee" in New Zealand and he said
the law has been changed and such shouting is no longer an
offence.
I disagree. Could you please clarify this law and let me know
who is right.
Many thanks Jeff.
P.S. I am looking forward to another Premier League struggle
with the Boro :-)
Stephen
Jeff's reply
I am probably the last person to ask as I thought I knew the
offside law until the Van Nistelrooy goal in Euro 2008.
As far as I am aware you are correct, a player has to put
a name on a call like you suggested so that he is identifying
it as an instruction to a team mate and not as a distraction
to an opponent.
I cannot see why they would change that ruling, but then again!!
As for the Boro, I am hopeful that we will not be flirting
with relegation but we need to get off to a good start.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Jack, 13th August 2008
I'm not saying that I am a member of these sites Jeff. I have
recently started a refereeing course and it will be finishing
in the next few weeks, so after that, hopefully I will be
asking advice on how to manage certain situations!!
I apologise for using the word "hate" but he has consistently
made mistakes:
1) The Manchester United incident in 2000.
2) His obvious hatred of Kenilworth Road.
3) 2004 - the Barry Ferguson red card incident.
4) Booking the wrong player in the Sheffield Wednesday v QPR
match. Plus he appeared to favour QPR.
5) 2007 - the farce in the Boro v Fulham game.
6) Norwich City v Bristol City. There was a blatant handball
by the Bristol player and he gave a free kick the other way.
From this, Bristol go and score to make it 2-1.
7) 2008 - QPR v Stoke - the sending off of Andy Griffin (it
shouldn't have happened).
8) West Brom v Shefield Wednesday - Greening and Johnson's
little disagreement.
I respect you as a former official Jeff, don't get me wrong.
I am also aware that we all make mistakes. I'm sure I will
if I pass this course! But not as many as that! These were
decisions that could really affect games, seasons, clubs and
lives.
One referee that I think should be promoted to the Premier
League is Kevin Friend. I think he refs brilliantly and deserves
it far more than Andy D'Urso because he's already had his
chance. It's time for someone else.
On a better note, what are your predictions for Boro this
season? What about Norwich?
Thanks again, Jack
Jeff's reply
Well Jack
I am surprised that you need to take a referees' exam as you
seem to know it all already. Should you ever progress to be
a referee, then if you are one tenth as good as Andy D'Urso
then you will be an excellent ref.
You appear very knowledgeable about dates, times and events
but I am afraid that you don't know the first thing about
what it takes to be a ref. You again accuse Andy of hatred
and favouring teams.
You have not even qualified yet but you state you will not
make the same number of mistakes. Well let's see. The first
thing that you perhaps need to address is your attitude. That
might sound harsh to you but please take it from someone who
knows. It is very easy to sit in front of the TV and get everything
right - just wait until you are out there.
I will wait with interest to see how your career progresses.
I agree that Kevin Friend does look a good referee, just like
everybody else who has achieved their status in the professional
game. Let's see if he gets a chance to go further.
Boro, who knows it could go either way.
Norwich are in a very competitive league and up against a
lot of good teams. They have a good backroom staff so hopefully
they won't have the relegation fears of last season.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Jack, 12th August 2008
Hi there. I agree that referees will, as always, make mistakes
but all I hope is that they aren't remembered like the Styles
howler in Liverpool v Chelsea last season.
I'm not sure if you are aware of bebo but there are numerous
pages of bands who hate referees. Rob Styles and Andy D'Urso
(a personal hatred of mine!) are hated in particular and there
are appeals to get them both sacked basically!
My comment about Phil Dowd has reason! I think he has an ability
to command respect and he reminds me of Collina. He also seems
to make mistakes like others but he has a good reputation
and controls games well. Paul Jewell is a plonker, just like
Mr Warnock and his moaning compatriots!
The face will seem to fit the same as it does every season!!
Thanks, Jack
Jeff's reply
You certainly have some strong views.
To be quite honest, people who set up sites to show hatred
towards referees when they are only fuelled by personal views
and incidents that have affected their teams are quite frankly
pathetic. Do you honestly think that anyone in authority is
going to take a blind bit of notice of the opinions of unqualified
people?
With regard to Andy D'Urso, since dropping into the Football
League he has been consistently assessed as the top referee
in those divisions. In fact, he is the most qualified to be
promoted back into the Premier League but the bosses don't
seem to want to do that. Face fitting again.
I take exception to the word "hate" being used about a referee.
It is totally unfounded and over the top.
You, like anyone else, is entitled to an opinion but nothing
more than that. To correctly assess someone's performance
and ability you have to be qualified to do so.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Jack, 11th August 2008
Hi Jeff
So another campaign has got under way and we are all set for
another season of refereeing howlers and stupidity!
Phil Dowd is the best referee at the moment in my opinion
but it will be the same three referees who get the big games:
Howard Webb, Alan Wiley and Mike Riley.
Let's hope we have a good season and it isn't remembered for
a group of dreadful decisions.
Also, I am now living in New Zealand and just read a comment
you got about the Pheonix player having a trial at Boro. If
you manage to get him in, he could well be a damn good signing.
And, just thought I'd ask if you know what the story is with
Uriah Rennie. He was a great referee who I haven't seen take
any major games or that many Premiership games altogether.
Where has he gone?!
Thanks
Jack
Jeff's reply
I too hope that referees don't make any mistakes but that
will not happen - they are human.
Your choice of Phil Dowd as the top ref is an interesting
one. I don't think Paul Jewell will agree with you on that
one. The best refs and the most experienced ones will get
the biggest games, coupled with whether your face fits!!
Let's hope that the Boro have unearthed a Kiwi gem. Have you
got any more players out there who might help the cause?
Uriah Rennie is still around. I agree with you that he is
a good ref, although again many out there will disagree. He
missed a large chunk of last season due to being injured and
having an operation. He should have retired at the end of
last season but is being retained this year, so hopefully
you might see a bit more of him.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Tino, 10th August 2008
Thanks for a cracking night at the Saltaire Brewery with the
City Gent (BCFC) on Thursday night, very entertaining. Looking
forward to the book. Nice to hear forthright views for a change.
Best regards
Tino (alias Graham Poll)
Jeff's reply
I enjoyed the evening. Whilst my speaking engagements are
usually more formal, last night was a good opportunity to
meet people and have a good banter.
I hope that you have a good season and if you are coming to
Darlo, give me a shout and we can have a pint before the game.
Enjoy the book.
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: David Hutchinson, 9th August 2008
1) Darlo sold best striker
Jeff's reply
Economics Hutchy. The Chairman needs to cut his losses on
the club and would you stand in the way of a player who has
the chance to play at a higher level?
DH
2) No Chairman on team picture.
Jeff's reply
He was away on business - his other ones that do not lose
him money!!
DH
3) No building of new facilities
Jeff's reply
I don't know when this is going to start - it's probably more
to do with politics.
DH
4) Instead of building on progress, Darlo capitulate by slashing
their budget, increasing admission and reducing the playing
budget by half.
Jeff's reply
I, like you, would love to see Darlo progress but why should
the Chairman put his hard earned into a football club when
the people of the town will not support it? It is not a charity
and no one with a brain should throw money into a hole.
DH
5) No wonder fans lose interest.
Jeff's reply
I think the true fans know the score.
DH
6) Let those who are watching speak mate.
Jeff's reply
That's dead simple Hutchy, 01325 25 55 55, every Saturday
evening. The invitation is open to everyone!!
DH
7) Bring back Sotnik.
Jeff's reply
The reason he left was that the club could not afford him.
I think most fans would rather see money in the playing budget
than on executives. Having said that the club need expert
guidance off the pitch and more paying customers through the
turnstiles.
David Hutchinson responds:
He bought a Football Club to make it a success so yes he should
invest to ensure the fans return. Did this not work with your
pal Steve Gibson?
Hutchy
Jeff's reply
Hutchy, I cannot believe you are being so naïve. Steve Gibson
is a Boro lad, a fan and is giving something back to the people
and area he was born in and loves.
George Haughton is a businessman who bought DFC because of
the potential the land on the site had. He was, and still
is, looking to make a profit from that venture.
The football club came as part of the deal. Initially he did
think that he could make the club another successful business
venture but the fans showed him last season that they will
not come in sufficient numbers to make the footballing side
profitable to him.
He is not an Ambramovic, he is a man who makes money. Just
look at Mike Ashley at Newcastle, he has been busting a gut
since he got the club to get rid of it.
I personally think, with good foundation, that there could
be stormy times ahead.
Best wishes
Jeff
David Hutchinson responds:
Naive, mmm. Would he sell one of his rides at his new amusement
parks in the USA to customers if the foundations of the ride
had been made less secure? Answer, no.
How can he expect fans to ride his DFC rollercoaster if he
takes away the foundations, i.e. top goal scorer? No goals,
no points, no titles, less fans.
I have been naive since 1969, that's why I maintained faith.
He should come out and say I'm leaving because you did not
back me. Though that is for him as he owns the club.
Jeff's reply
This argument could run and run. I admire your loyalty to
your club as a genuine person who cares, however Tommy Wright
was there last season, scoring goals and the club were challenging
for promotion. Where were the "more fans"?
Leaving is an option but when you have money tied up in the
club you need a buyer. Any offers?
I am happy to continue this on air.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Andy, 9th August 2008
Best wishes to all your teams. I follow Rangers home, away
and abroad but have a wee soft spot for Chelsea and a huge
soft spot for New York Yankees.
Andy
Jeff's reply
I am afraid as a Boro fan, it is difficult to have a soft
spot for Chelsea. Three Wembley defeats make that difficult,
although I do feel that they might shock Manchester United
this season.
Boro's season could well be decided by how our inexperienced
keepers fare. Hartlepool may have to settle for mid table
again whilst Darlo need to solve their injury jinx and then
should go close for promotion.
As for Rangers, they have to stay in Europe both for financial
reasons and also so I can come up and enjoy the Ibrox atmosphere.
Enjoy the season
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: 1916, 8th August 2008
What's it like to be an oranger bastard, whats it like to
have no-hair. Up The RA!!
Jeff's reply
I would love to have taken the liberty to publicise your email
address, not that it will be a real one I suppose.
However due to legislation and data protection laws, I am
not allowed to do that. You see even scum like you have human
rights.
It just goes to show that low life do exist and are usually
as illiterate as they are stupid. I presume the word "oranger"
should be "orange" and "RA" should be "IRA".
Fortunately for you, even pieces of shit have access to the
internet and are able to waste their sad excuses of a life
by sending pointless emails.
By the way, I choose to have my hair cut short. Your lack
of a brain is unfortunately a birth defect rather than a choice!!
1916 responds
Theirs no huns in europe, no huns in europe. Well if thats
your story about your hair but to be honest its a bad look
for fashion!
Jeff's reply
Well that's a surprise - it just shows how daft you are, actually
using your own email address to spout your crap. Still, you
will soon be back at school and only have your homework and
your spots to worry about.
Don't worry about my fashion, worry about losing your virginity.
Now fuck off and leave me alone!!
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From: Norman, 8th August 2008
Where is the replay of the new show? We want to listen to
the show, Jeff.
Norman
Jeff's reply
It's dead easy mate, click on the Alpha
Radio website and click on the link marked "Listen
on demand to Jeff's show". The podcast is there now.
Also, my weekly web log will appear each Monday but you can
check that out here.
If you can't pick up the shows live on your radio, you can
listen to them online via the links.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Paul Jones, 8th August 2008
Jeff, I know you may not feel you can comment on this, but
I feel I have to say something about the revelation that referee
Mark Clattenburg has been basically suspended from football
activities thanks to financial problems in his electrical
company.
What on earth do they think he is going to do, take a bribe
to throw a match?
As a former referee, you will know that that will never cross
the mind of a professional so the action taken by the FA seems
totally unnecessary, pointless and possibly illegal.
In a week when there is at last some movement in getting support
for referees from grass roots to top level, this can only
undermine what they are trying to achieve.
No matter if he is re-instated within the next couple of weeks,
you just know that some fans will now make it harder for him
to do his job.
What are the stats - that one in three football matches have
to go without a referee thanks to the abuse. And they think
that this is going to make things better?
Sorry but they have just shot themselves in the foot once
again.
And by the same accounts, if a footballer is suffering from
financial difficulites through a business venture, they should
also be suspended "pending enquiries". Where does it stop?
As far as I am concerned, it should never have started.
Okay fans might have joked in the past about refs being one-sided
or tending towards the home side but this is just going to
start up a load more rubbish that will lead to more problems
than it will solve.
I would be interested to know what you think although I know
you are a very busy man.
Best Regards
Paul A Jones
Jeff's reply
Hi Paul, I have a policy that I always answer all correspondence.
The content and opinions that you have made are sensible and
therein lies the problem. Common sense goes out of the window.
Mark Clattenburg was due to ref a major game this Sunday and
now he has been denied this game. The feeling was probably
that with the media interest and him possibly having financial
problems, his mind would not be on the job.
Your point that if a player was in a similar position he would
probably still have played is valid.
Refs though, because of public perception, are on a hiding
to nothing. They do not get support from their bosses and
I am sure the FA have been embarrassed by this.
I personally don't know what truth there is in the stories
but nowadays the papers print what they want and worry about
the consequences later.
Having said that, something must have happened. The innocent
until proven guilty saying obviously does not apply here.
The Respect campaign, which has been much vaunted, will only
work if the cheap words are turned into action. I wait with
baited breath to see what action, if any, the FA will take
when one of the Big Four's managers castigates a ref in the
early weeks of the season.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Steve, 7th August 2008
Not back from Lithuania yet Jeff? Who are you going to support
in Europe this year?
Jeff's reply
No one, looks like a lot of quiet nights. That's life!!!
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From: Gary Stratford, 7th August 2008
Always after a bit of publicity Winter, ain't ya? Oh let's
have a pop at Leeds. You're a joke man, just like your refereeing
was.
Jeff's reply
Wind your neck in Gary, what's your problem? The "no one likes
us" tag belongs to Millwall, not Leeds.
I assume that your anger is because I made reference to Beckford
in my Darlo
Uncovered article this week. Surely if you read
the article properly, I was just making points about players
and clubs in pre-season friendlies. It was only relevant to
Leeds because of Beckford's behaviour in the friendly at Darlo.
I will be cheering Leeds on this season - I have backed them
to win League One actually!!
Thanks for your valued assessment of my refereeing abilities.
Fortunately for me, those who actually mattered and knew the
game did not share your point of view.
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: Mr Brown, 7th August 2008
Hi Jeff
I didn't know you were a Rangers man and you're so open about
it. I love that. I just wish some other celebrities and famous
people where so open. It seems nowadays celebrities are scared
to say they are Rangers fans in case it ruins their careers,
that's how mad it is.
Anyway, I read your article One
in a Row. It was a nice wee read. I enjoyed it
but for the exact reasons you say, foreign referees will never
be able to officiate an Old Firm game. It's impossible as
they will ALWAYS be favouring one side or another - that's
the pull of the Old Firm.
Keep the refs Scottish. If we are to believe what we saw last
season, most refs favour Celtic so there you go, they can't
throw that one at us anymore!
Keep up the good pieces. Rangers till I die.
Mr Brown
Edinburgh
Jeff's reply
I really do think that the conspiracy theory about refs favouring
one team or another is exactly that, a CONSPIRACY THEORY.
Any fan of any side can come up with instances that DEFINITELY
prove whatever they want it to prove. Refs make mistakes,
they are human, not cheats.
On the subject of supporting aside, I thought all fans were
loud and proud as to who they supported. If not, they are
not true fans.
I have and always will be proud to show my colours.
Enjoy the season.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Hutch, 6th August 2008
Selling prized assets as previous regimes have done shows
no ambition.
Oh listened on Saturday like, like, like, Even Bert was depressed.
Will there be match coverage on Alpha to listen to on the
river bank?
I really think you need the Chairman on air.
Kind regards Hutch.
Jeff's reply
Hi mate, I am speaking to the Chairman tonight. I am keen
to have him on air. The fact of life is that clubs and players
in League Two will look to maximise income and a chance to
move up the Leagues is usually deemed beneficial for everyone.
I know where you are coming from though. Unfortunately Alpha
will not be doing match commentaries.
I would love to have you on the show to put your point of
view about Tommy Wright.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: James, 6th August 2008
It should be a new red card offence to do a roly-poly in the
area where managers throw their spent chewing gum at the end
of matches. Just think of the danger to the health that might
involve!
Jeff's reply
Hi James
This is obvioulsy a reference to my
recent Catflap article.
I take it that you are a health and safety expert. I am sure
that somebody somewhere will bring out a rule that forbids
throwing of chewing gum as the saliva etc etc could cause
health problems. But then so does spitting, sweating and all
other production of bodily fluids.
Let's just ban the game altogether - that will solve all the
problems in one!!
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: Gary Parker, 5th August 2008
We need to buy a goalkeeper and fast!! What a weak second
goal Turnbull let in against Hibs on Saturday. I know it was
only a friendly but these two keepers are not for the Premier
League.
The defence looks nervous and edgy - they don't have confidence
with these two. We should have bought a keeper earlier and
given him the pre-season but it's still not too late.
Buy a keeper now or all the pre-season hype will be out the
window after three games. If we don't get a good start, I
dread what will happen with no confident keeper behind the
defence.
Mark my words these two have not got what it takes in that
League. I can see them in Division One and struggling to hold
down a regular place.
Don't reply with give them a chance ! We are talking about
our Premiership future here and we can't rely on taking a
chance until January and then buying.
I think Southgate is gambling his future with these two!!
He has no excuses this season as this is the team that he
has moulded as his own!!
Jeff's reply
Hi Gary
You are going to get no arguments from me on this subject.
In fact I agree with every word you have said. There have
been some experienced proven keepers available this summer
who have gone for relatively small fees.
I don't see the need for someone like Harper when virtually
everybody is saying we need a keeper. I think that if it does
go wrong on the keeper front, Gareth will have made a massive
rod for his own back.
He has major selection problems in other areas, in that we
seem well covered, but as you suggest, the keeper gives confidence
to the defence and indeed the whole team.
I hope we are both proven to be wrong!!
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: Rory Stewart, 4th August 2008
Jeff, I've just read your article
regarding refereeing in Scotland and, yet again,
it was an excellent read.
I thoroughly enjoy your writing and it is so refreshing to
read something from someone who nails their colours to the
mast. Very different to the Celtic pandering media in Scotland.
I hope to read much more from you in future!
Keep up the good word!!
Rory
Jeff's reply
I have linked up with one of the Rangers websites so hopefully
I will be writing a few articles during the season. Thanks
for your support.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Dale Imray, 3rd August 2008
Jeff, I wrote to you last season when you had a go at the
Toon as I am a Geordie Newcastle fan exiled in New Zealand.
Boro have just taken a lad from the Wellington Phoenix (NZ)
on trial. I never miss a Phoenix game and this lad had a great
year last year in the A League. His name is Tony Lochead.
He was great last season at left back for the Phoenix. If
you meet him, tell him good luck from me.
My brother Phil Imray is also in the UK having trials. He
is a 6ft 4 keeper and a bloody good one too.
If Mr Southgate is looking for a young keeper tell him to
get in touch with Phil.
Phil is only 24 (a lot younger than me!) and steeped in footy.
Anything to stop the Mackems signing him!
Cheers Jeff
Dale Imray
Jeff's reply
Yes I had heard Boro are looking at a Kiwi on trial. Boro
certainly could do with getting a goalkeeper as well.
Don't worry about the Mackems signing them though, they only
go for Spurs Reserves and 30+.
Hopefully the Toon will have a good season and scrap it out
with Sunderland for runners-up spot in the North-East mini-league.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Robbie Smith, 2nd August 2008
Hi Jeff
I'm a Rangers fan and I think we can win the title this season
as long as there is no fixture chaos at the end of the season
like last season.
Jeff's reply
I too think it can be won but they need to start scoring goals.
I know that this week was their first real competitive game
but they must stay in Europe, even if that means more fixture
congestion.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Bobby Maggoo, 2nd August 2008
All the best Jeff and keep backing the Gers!
Andy
Jeff's reply
I will do Andy.
Another 0-0 at home in Europe, here we go again!!! Rangers
have got to qualify otherwise we will all miss out on those
special Ibrox European nights.
Still, you only have Rangers to disappoint and frustrate you.
I have Boro, Hartlepool and Darlington as well.
Enjoy the season and my columns.
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: John Havelock, 1st August 2008
Hi Jeff
Could you please settle a debate I am having with a work colleague.
My colleague claims you refereed an FA Premier League Match,
Newcastle v Middlesbrough. I was under the impression that
due to you living in the North East that the FA would not
allow you to referee a Premiership appointment involving Middlesbrough.
Your clarification would be very much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
John
Jeff's reply
I hope that you have a sizeable wager riding on this one John.
As you correctly say, I was not allowed to ref a Boro match.
Very early in my career, when the fourth officials were local
league refs, I once acted in that role for a Football League
match at Ayresome Park between the two clubs.
Whilst a Premiership ref, I once got a call on a matchday
to say that there was a problem with the availability of the
appointed ref for a reserve game at Gateshead between Toon
and Boro and that Newcastle had no problems with me reffing
it. I reffed and it ended up 2-2.
At the start of every season a ref has to declare interests
in any club. I have covered this in my article for the Rangers
fans entitled One
in a Row that appears on the website at the moment.
Best wishes
Jeff
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